Episode 40

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Published on:

4th Jan 2022

Own Your $h!t, Not Everyone Else’s

As humans, we are hardwired for connection. With this basic need for connection, subconsciously, we can become emotional sponges, where we absorb and take on other people’s stuff, energetically and emotionally. We start to identify their problems as ours and this is why we want to introduce the concept of setting energetic boundaries, to help ask the question, “Is this mine to carry?”

Listen in as Jen and Jane personally connect with how they have taken on the unnecessary burden of processing their loved ones' stuff for them and how it isn't serving anyone. They discuss what it looks and feels like to have a Saviour complex with your friends and family and how you can get into the habit of always trying to fix things for other people. When we do this we are actually blocking others from learning how to fix or process their own stuff. 

When we take on our own stuff and others, emotions can get trapped in the body, which turns into dis-ease and chronic pain. Jen and Jane explain what an emotional release is and how to implement it into your life when things are starting to get overwhelming. 

When we are able to decipher what is our shit and what is others' shit, we can begin to heal and allow the other to do their own work. It also takes a huge weight off our shoulders.

Additional Resources/Reading:

  • The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk
  • When the Body Says No by Dr. Gabor Mate
  • Permission to Feel by Dr. Mark Brackett
  • The Atlas of the Heart by Brene Brown

Questions for further guidance: 


  • When you are feeling an emotion. Stop and reflect, is this REALLY mine? 


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On the No Halos Here Podcast, we explore a wide range of topics broadly categorized as well-being. We encourage you to do your own research and make informed choices about your health and wellbeing. The information we provide is never a substitute for qualified advice specific to your individual needs. In listening, you take full responsibility for implementing any suggestions shared on the podcast and you agree to indemnify us completely against all consequences arising directly or indirectly from your choices.


About Jen and Jane

Jen Lang

Jen believes in the power and wisdom of women’s voices. She’s a guide for women who want to tune into and align their inner voice so their outer voice can shine; uniting physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual energies into a powerful voice ready to share your message.


Jane Stark

Passionate about energetic alignment and living life from a place of personal power, Jane is a heart-centered leader, certified health and life coach, and marketing strategist.  She leads others to play bigger and feel lighter by helping them see and navigate their blocks and connect more deeply with themselves.


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Jen Lang:

Hi, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of no

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halos here with Jen Lang and Jane Stark. Sharing one

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microphone. Hello. Hi. So this is our first episode of the new

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year for 2022. And I just happen to be visiting the area where

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Jane lives. So we are recording this in her home studio, which

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is kind of exciting

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and fun. That's kind of cool. It's only the second

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time we've ever done this. Yeah. So

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we're usually looking each other on screens. And so

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it's kind of funny to be like, looking at each other beside

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each other on screens. Yeah. Yeah, it's all good. So today,

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we wanted to get into this topic of owning your shed more deeply.

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And we wanted to look at the aspect of owning your shit, not

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everyone else's. And we've been talking about this for a while.

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And you might be asking yourself, How is this possible?

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Why am I in my own sovereign being I when you're talking

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about owning other people's stuff on other people's shit?

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Well, I don't know, after the holidays, you might be feeling a

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little bit of fatigue, fatigued little bit people, though, yeah,

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people doubt and maybe indulged in too much food or drink, which

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happens to many activities. But the aspect of this we want to

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talk about is actually the people you spent time with, can

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also affect how you feel after the holidays. So

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yeah, yeah. And I think what we're talking about

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here specifically to is, is the energetics. And the stuff. It's

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like the subconscious. So if we're talking, we're talking,

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and we're talking boundaries. So there's, there's boundaries,

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where we can speak out our boundaries, we have our

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boundaries, but there's also emotional and energetic

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boundaries that aren't talked about so much. But is definitely

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been something that I think Jen and I have both been really

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working on through this past year, over the past couple of

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years. But I know for myself, really taking a deep dive into

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what this looks like in my life over the past year. And so that

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was what we were we wanted to take our discussion today,

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introducing you if this is a new concept to you, or maybe going a

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little bit deeper on this idea of energy and energetic

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boundaries and emotions and how we typically, especially highly

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sensitive people, and empaths. But I would kind of argue that

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we all are this way, we tend to be emotional sponges. And so,

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you know, we we will subconsciously because we are

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we're human beings bred for connection, we will connect

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energetically and emotionally with those people that we are

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with. And oftentimes we can be taking on the emotions and the

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feelings of others. And we don't realize it and so we identify

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those emotions as our own. And this is a really important

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distinction that we wanted to bring here and that we want to

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start to unpack around how do we start? Have bringing more

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awareness to what is our own stuff? And what is not our own

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stuff? We're chuckling because my daughter's in the other room

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supposed to be quiet. So if you hear banging around better, real

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life,

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real life Blewitt yes, good punctuation for the topic,

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I think. Right? Yes. So what is yours and what is not? And it

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might be that the feelings, like Jane said, the feelings you're

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experiencing, you may fully identify as your own you may

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believe and take them on as your own. But how do you start to

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discern and know really what's yours and what's not. So we're

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going to walk through some processes with you. Basically,

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Jane and I both, like Jane said, we've been both been working on

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it. But I think about late mid November, we started to unpack a

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really big piece of it, where there were these I'm not maybe

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unspoken agreements or unconscious agreements for us to

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process emotions for our loved ones. And I basically tracked

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mine back to my childhood where I had this role in my family to

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help others process their emotions. I took them on as mine

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and now it's my now with that distinction. I'm able to go

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that's not my I can return that to sender or I can let that fall

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away from me, so that I only have to manage my emotions and

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my feelings. And boy, since I've done that, I My life has felt so

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much lighter in so many ways. I felt almost like I've lost

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physical weight, but it's been energetic weight has been

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dropped. And I've had more space and energy to think about and

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focus on other things, which is a really nice refreshing feeling

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actually know what it was like for you?

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Yeah, definitely. It definitely. For me, it same

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thing, it felt lighter, there was more space. But also, it

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made me really step more into and realize truly who I am. I

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think mine, mine was born out of fight, I look back and I know

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that for me, a lot of it is around. I've never been one

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likes confrontation. people pleasing. Yeah. And things like

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that, like learned behaviors that for whatever reason,

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wherever I picked them up, those were the behaviors that I

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learned. And so then it started to become, though that if I just

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processed everything for everyone, or just take that on,

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then I think that I'm helping or I'm doing, you know, I'm doing

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something, you know, to be liked or things like that. And so

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that's kind of where it came from. The other piece for me, I

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think is what I've realized is I definitely had something called

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the savior complex, or the rescuer archetype. And that idea

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that I can fix everything. And if I just take it on, I can fix

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it. And so again, a lot of this was subconscious, I didn't

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really realize I was doing it consciously. But as Jen said,

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back in November, when we both kind of had this awareness in

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our own, in each of our own situations, mine was really

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around this idea that like Holy smokes, I have been in the

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savior complex for my family, and friends, more so family,

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actually, let's, let's retract that for my family. But I have

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seen where I've tried to play it out in friendships. But you

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know, where all of a sudden, I'm taking on emotions, and I'm

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trying to fix things, quote, unquote, that maybe aren't

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really mine to fix. And in doing that, I'm also I'm not serving

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myself, because I'm actually exhausting myself and making

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myself sick, but I'm also not serving them, because it doesn't

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then give them the opportunity to go in and do their own

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healing work and, and work through what they need to work

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through. And so that was sort of a big realization for me.

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So I totally agree, because I was living some of

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that as well. And the way someone asked me recently about

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how that shows up in sort of practical ways in our day to day

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lives. And I think Jane and I both came to the realization

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that we were doing all this healing work, when we were

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doing, you know, going to see practitioners, or diving deeper

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on certain topics. And it felt like Groundhog Day. Yeah. I

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said to Jen, I had this realization of like, I am

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addicted to healing. Like, I am addicted to doing the healing

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work. And it's because I was perpetually in this cycle of

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just, oh, okay, so something's showing up again. Oh, I better

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go. Like, I'll take that on. And I'll go fix it. Because there

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is, yeah, there is a very nuanced me, I don't know if

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that's the right word. But there is a thing within our space in

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the coaching healing self help world, where it's like, this

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message of own your shit is strong. But it for me, I kind of

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misconstrued it to like, you know, oh, well, if you do when

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you do your own healing, it heals everyone around you. So I

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bought that as Oh, okay, well, then I'll just keep every time

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something came up. Rather than really looking at what part of

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this is mine. And what part of this is not mine, I would just

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take it on and be like, Okay, I got this, I'll take this to

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therapy. I'll take this to my Hypnotherapist. I'll take this

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here. And I would go in counseling. Yeah, I would go and

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take it, take the whole thing, and try and heal it when really,

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there's only a piece of it that I really should have been taking

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to those places. And so it became this addiction is what I

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felt like. And it was a real like,

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whoa, well, the other the flip side of that is us

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taking on that something's wrong with us.

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And that's exactly how I would sit in these things.

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It was like, Oh, I'm broken again. Oh, this must be me.

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It's my fault. Yeah. And that's so that's the flip

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side. So if you catch yourself in this narrative or this

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dialogue with yourself going, Oh, something wrong with me or,

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like again, the more sort of uglier side of that would be a

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form of gaslighting where those around you are like, what's

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wrong with you? It's your fault. Why do you Why are you this way?

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Rather than

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you know, again, owning so it's really true.

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about them owning their part and things and you owning your part,

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and you being able to recognize what is yours, and what is not

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yours to take on. And I mean, the gaslighting conversation is

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a big one. It's really that sort of a more specific topic. But

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definitely it shows up in that. And I think you know what you

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were saying we to go back, I kind of detract us a little bit,

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but how this might show up in people's lives? Like, how can

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you recognize you're doing this? So one was you said, sort of

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like Groundhog Day. And it's like, that was sort of what was

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happening. For me, it was like, I have spent years and years and

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years, you know, doing my work and healing. And yes, I've grown

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in this, I've changed. And yes, lots of things have shifted. But

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the same little patterns kept showing up. It's all the time,

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it's a repeating pattern. Sometimes this might

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show up for you physiologically. So for example, I've had issues

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with my gallbladder for years, and I'm not talking major issues

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is just talking like discomfort, and twinging being careful, like

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what I ate and how much and when, like standard. I was like,

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oh, you know, I'm in my 40s now and like, maybe it's just this

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is what comes with the territory hormone or maybe not. And so as

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soon as I had released this pattern around, started to undo

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this pattern around clearing emotion for loved ones, my

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gallbladder twinges disappeared. And I was like, wow, how long

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have I been doing this unconsciously? So I'm not saying

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it's like, I'm not saying your you, as a listener are going to

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specifically have something to do with your gallbladder. But

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maybe you will, because it is a place of holding on to

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bitterness and resentment. So what if that bitterness and

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resentment isn't actually yours to clear, but it's showing up in

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you?

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Because you're actually holding on to it? It is

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your it is needed to be released? Right? We know. I

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mean, again, it's proven that stored emotions turn into dis

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ease and chronic pain in the body. Like, and so if we look at

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this, and if we're storing if we're and so that kind of shows

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up in unprocessed emotions and moving those through and there's

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a couple of great resources, gamma taze when the body says no

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is one. And I never say his name, right. But the body keeps

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score. We'll put the link in our show notes. Then I can't

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remember his name. He Bestival.

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Yeah. Oh Bessel Vander Kolk, thank

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you are two great resources on this concept of how

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the body and emotion how the body stores emotions. But this

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is a big piece of what we're talking about, right? So we know

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that stored emotions can often turn into chronic pain and

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chronic illness. So that's another that's another hint in

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terms of where this may be showing up if you have some of

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those types of things. Again, this isn't like a panacea, like,

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you know, here's your solution. But these are all the pieces,

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this is another piece of that puzzle to start looking at. And

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so that so those are kind of the ways that it might show up in

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your life. And looking at how then how do we deal with this?

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How do we what do we, you know, what's our

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so well, there's some tools around you know, emotional

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release, sometimes that might actually just might just be

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movement. So if you're feeling frustrated and angry, and

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exercises an outlet for you, then definitely exercise yoga,

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cardiovascular exercise, you have a rebounder, I prefer to do

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stretching, I did karate for years, I figured that, honestly,

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karate has really helped me manage my anger and like fury

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and frustration because it's, it might sound violent, but it's

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actually a non violent way to release pent up emotion and move

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it through the body. So those exercises are wonderful ways to

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move those emotions, the emotional, other other emotional

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release tools.

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Some of them are a little bit more you need to kind

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of like be coached through them. Yeah. But I think the first

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piece is even just starting to like tap into your intuition and

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start to notice you know, when you're feeling an emotion, see

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if you can kind of move outside of that emotion a little bit and

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become the observer and ask like literally stop and ask the

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question in your head or out loud if you'd like but is this

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mine and see what comes through yes or no you'll start to the

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more you do it, the more you'll start to like notice that your

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intuition will give you that answer. And sorry, I was just

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gonna say that you know when you get that you know getting that

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intuitive hit and if it's not yours again it's like sometimes

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it's as simple as setting that intention to okay just released

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this from my body and just be like hey body like let's let

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this go.

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Oh other practical ways of just along that

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especially with emotions, because water is an element

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associated closely with emotions. So having a hot bath

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or having a shower. Actually, someone I client I spoke to the

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other day said that their psychologist told them to every

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time they had a shower, imagine the water washing away the

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emotions feelings both of the day and anything that's not

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yours. So first, the physical Hi And then you have emotional and

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mental hygiene.

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And that, I think, is what we're talking about

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today, right? This is the piece where like emotional and mental

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hygiene, we don't do it and don't ever taught it. It's never

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taught, it's not talked about. And it's such an important piece

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of life, because that resentment

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that you may harbor known or unconscious or

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unconscious, whatever's happened, that resentment you're

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going to hang on to is going to result in some form of disease

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that you will take to a traditional practitioner, maybe

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your medical doctor, your allopathic doctor, and they'll

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run you through all these tests. But rarely, if ever, will you

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get a practitioner who will ask, what are the emotions that

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you're hanging on to you that you think might be contributing

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to this condition? And that's a big question to ask yourself, if

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you find yourself with digestive upsets, that's a big one. And

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sometimes those are linked to anxiety. And there's, again,

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it's a rabbit hole, right? Work with someone work with a coach,

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a professional, a naturopathic doctor, you'll have you don't

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just need one doctor, you need a team of people who are there to

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support you, and to can provide different perspectives on

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helping you unpack this another practical tool that we created

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his the empowerment playbook, which walks you through a

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process to discern whether those emotions and feelings like

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what's bothering you in your life? And how can you unpack

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that and we give you creative tools to move that through.

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We also tie into that we just recently launched

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our 321 countdown offer, right, which is all about this, it's

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all about looking at, you know, those kind of twofold, it's

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about taking all of the information that's out there,

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and you know, the information overload that we're in and

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helping you unpack that and turn information into transformation.

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But the crux of that is, and a huge part of that is, before you

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do that, again, you have to we have to be able to identify what

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is our own to transform, and what is not ours to actually

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transform or do anything with and to just let it go. And I

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think another sort of point on this that I just wanted to make

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is that we're not just talking this isn't, this isn't just

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like, Oh, you got in a big argument with no, you know, your

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partner or without your parent or family member or something

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like that. And it's like big emotions. This is this is like

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Jen said, kind of like hygiene, this is stuff that if you start

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to bring this into your practice, daily, ideally, you

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it's amazing how much better you'll notice you feel a little

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thing, like it's just shifting some of this stuff out. And

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rather than keeping it in, because when we when we don't

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process this stuff, that is when we have it turns into anxiety

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and and then sometimes it turns into something worse, but so it

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can just be from being out in the world. It's like our world

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is busy, it's chaotic, you know, work for many of us is extremely

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busy. And we don't even realize it again, we're emotional

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sponges. So we're just soaking up everybody's all spectrums of

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the of emotion, right? It's not just

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in the grocery store, the exactly the Christmas

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shopping you may have done, or the sales after the holidays,

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were in, like, it's like, think of this big emotional soup,

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you're going to the mall to do the post holiday shopping, and

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all of a sudden you're mixing physically with people, but

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you're also mixing emotionally, there could

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be grief, there could be joy, there could be

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anger, there's like every emotion we can think of right.

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And so if our tip to you is just starting to pay attention to

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this and look at this at a micro level. Like that. And then if

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you know, then working with a coach and being able to go

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deeper. So again, something like our 321 countdown offer, which

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is three sessions, where we kind of dive into this with you,

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three sessions with Jen and I, you know, can help really help

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to differentiate because it can be hard in the beginning to

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really, truly be able to identify what is yours and

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what's not, it's not, it's not just super obvious all the time,

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like I say, starting to pull into your intuition is helpful.

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But really, I mean, I've been doing this work for a long time.

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And you know, just a month ago had this massive realization

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that I was carrying around some really big stuff that wasn't

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mine. And I had no idea I had completely identified it as my

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own, you know, continued healing journey to do. And so to be able

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to just put that down.

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I think it's a lot more common than we think and

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like yeah, really, what we are talking about here today is

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probably the tip of the iceberg. And when we start to take

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responsibility for what's ours and send back to the others

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what's theirs, then we will all be better ahead because the

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faster you can come into alignment for yourself, the

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faster you will get to where you need to be to have a healthy

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aligned and abundant life

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and if we're constantly taking on everyone

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else's stuff, a we're not getting ahead because like you

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say we're not in alignment. Be we're not even then giving

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people the opportunity to to go and do that work for themselves

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because you're trying to fix it. You're taking it on So yeah, we

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are just I think you're right, we are just scratching the tip

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of the iceberg. But, you know, I, it's, uh, we feel that this

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is a really big important conversation to start having.

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And, you know, Jen and I have really started talking about

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owning your shit. And that's kind of becoming our tagline and

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our slogan, and we're all about that personal responsibility

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piece. But the reason we wanted to bring this episode to you

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today was because I think the second piece of that, that not

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everyone else's, is equally as important. Yeah. And that's, you

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know, the, the conversation we wanted to bring here and being a

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new year, the beginning of the year. And as Jen said, In the

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beginning, you know, we're coming off holidays, where we

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may have been, you know, the little people though, seeing

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more people than we normally would. Now is a time to really

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sit and look and reflect on like, how am I feeling after all

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of this? And what have I picked up? And

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is it yours? Yeah. So use that, that that yes. No

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muscle? Is it yours or not? That's a muscle that you have to

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just basically exercise to practice. Yeah. And it's not

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always going to be clear. And you have to be really okay. And

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accepting with that not being clear. So that being said, go

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give it a try. Just right after you listen to this podcast, tune

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into how am I feeling right now? And is it mine? Is that try and

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identify that emotion? The other book we can point them towards?

Jen Lang:

Is the mark Brackett book.

Unknown:

Oh, yeah. No, got a trickier one. Is it feelings?

Jen Lang:

It's got permission to feel. But give yourself

Jen Lang:

permission to feel the emotion. Then ask Is it yours?

Jane Stark:

Yes. And I have not read it yet. But there's a

Jane Stark:

fourth book that I do have on my Christmas list is Brene Brown's

Jane Stark:

new book Atlas of the heart. Yeah, I have not read it. But

Jane Stark:

like I say, Follow McBurney and follow her work. And this one

Jane Stark:

from what I understand is all about the you know, emotional

Jane Stark:

intelligence and emotional language and letting us

Jane Stark:

understand or helping us to understand which I think is the

Jane Stark:

other key part of this, we're gonna wrap it I just want to say

Jane Stark:

that I think this is the other piece and and Mark brackets

Jane Stark:

book, permission to feel is all about this, that we don't

Jane Stark:

actually have the language for emotions. Most people will say,

Jane Stark:

I'm happy, I'm mad, I'm sad. But so as we continue to, like

Jane Stark:

expand our dialect around that and start to get the words in

Jane Stark:

the language to describe truly how we're feeling, that is also

Jane Stark:

a big piece of this and will help you open up so yeah,

Jane Stark:

definitely check out those four resources that we will put in

Jane Stark:

the show notes to them Rene's book and Mark brackets around

Jane Stark:

emotional IQ. And then Gabor Ma Tei and

Jen Lang:

Bessel Vander Thank you.

Jane Stark:

Their books are when the body says no, and the body

Jane Stark:

keeps score. And that will kind of give you that connection from

Jane Stark:

the health perspective and potentially if you are

Jane Stark:

struggling with some chronic pieces, what the connection

Jane Stark:

could be there from an energetic and emotional perspective.

Jen Lang:

So awesome. Have fun with that. Exactly. Welcome to

Jen Lang:

the new year starting from practicing a new skill and

Jen Lang:

practicing something that will make your life lighter, brighter

Jen Lang:

and easier in the long run. It might feel a bit confusing at

Jen Lang:

first, we're always here if you have questions you can certainly

Jen Lang:

reach out to us at Hello at we are Jen and jane.com That's

Jen Lang:

sometimes just a really easy like, Hey, I listen to this

Jen Lang:

episode. Question just send us a send us an email.

Jane Stark:

I'd love to hear from you. I'd love to hear from

Jane Stark:

you. We really want to keep this conversation conversation going.

Jane Stark:

So on that note,

Jen Lang:

have an awesome awesome day, night afternoon

Jen Lang:

wherever you are in this world and we will catch you next week

Jen Lang:

on

Jane Stark:

bye for now, I thanks for joining us for these

Jane Stark:

conscious combos. If you're ready to dive deeper, head on

Jane Stark:

over to Dr Jenn and jane.com to continue the conversation. If

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you'd love this episode, please take a moment to share with your

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friends or your network and leave us a review by going to

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and let us know what you enjoy and what you would like to see

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About the Podcast

No Halos Here
Conscious Convos for an Elevated World
Are you looking for more than a ‘surface’ conversation about topics like spirituality, the self-help industry, or health & wellbeing? Maybe you’re curious about exploring some of your own gifts or health challenges and want to know if others have experienced what you have. What about the intersection of entrepreneurship, family life, and self-care?

Join Jen Lang and Jane Stark, two heart-centred business owners, as they explore the shadowed edges of life, the universe, and beyond through honest and thought-provoking conversations. No topic is off-limits and is approached with an open heart and mind, active listening, and compelling guests. We may not have all the answers, but we know that the way forward is through these vulnerable conversations.

Listen in as we unite physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual energies into a powerful show to lead, heal, and inspire you.

About your host

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Jen Lang

Jane Stark - Passionate about energetic alignment and living life from a place of personal power, Jane is a heart-centred leader, certified health and life coach, and marketing strategist. She leads others to play bigger and feel lighter by helping them see and navigate their blocks and connect more deeply with themselves.

Jen Lang - Jen believes in the power and wisdom of women’s voices. She’s a guide for women who want to tune into and align their inner voice so their outer voice can shine; uniting physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual energies into a powerful voice ready to share your message.