The Power of Seasonal Change

Jen Lang: 00:00:08

This is no halos here hosted by Jen Lang and Jane Stark, the place to inspire a change in your consciousness to elevate the world. We're to heart centered business owners nourishing our inner rebels while growing our respective businesses.

Jane Stark: 00:00:21

No halos here is the result of bringing together an opera singer turned spiritual mentor and a marketing professional turned well being coached to meditate daily. Together, we unite physical, mental, emotional and spiritual energies into a powerful presence to lead, heal and inspire. We love exploring the shadowed edges of life, the universe and beyond through honest and thought provoking conversations. Let's dive in.

Jen Lang: 00:00:48

Hi, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of no halos here with Jen Lange and Jane Stark. Afternoon. Yeah, Happy Sunday afternoon from us, we are taking a break from our regular recording schedule and and fitting stuff in when and where we

Jane Stark: 00:01:04

can, like getting some catch up from somewhere.

Jen Lang: 00:01:06

Yeah, definitely. We both enjoyed some of like, a week or two almost a little bit more than

Jane Stark: 00:01:12

like, yeah, two and a half weeks all together that we didn't Yeah, act.

Jen Lang: 00:01:17

Yeah. So we're playing catch up needed. Definitely, definitely those breaks. And actually, it's relevant to the topic we have for today, because we are talking about the power of working with the power of seasonal change. And this came out of our reflection, right after we finished our respective vacations. And we were meeting for the first time earlier this week, or late late last week. And we thought how strange it is that just when the seasons and the weather and all the things, at least in the Northern Hemisphere, are encouraging us to slow down and to slow down the pace and go within is when we ask people to go back to work and ramp up for school and all this other, like high activity, mental attention type stuff. So yeah,

Jane Stark: 00:02:06

yeah. So how do we I think one of our conversations was, how do we balance this the energy using the energy of the seasons and the seasonal change with the pace of life these days? You know, I think it's been I know, for years, I've said it every you know, it's always like, Oh, yeah, to be so great when it just slows down a little bit. And then you're like, it just doesn't slow down. Summer, I definitely find has a different pace. And I do consciously take time to step back from work and enjoy summer and enjoy time with my family. But then I find and I think a lot of you know, you, you go through the whole summer holiday thing, and it's even trying to keep regular routines with work and stuff is hard, because people are always on holidays all over the place. And then you find that September hits, and it's back to school, and everybody's back in the office or their home offices Now perhaps. And it's just this like, okay, like, we're back, let's go. And it's that. On one hand, I really like that energy of like, a lot of I've heard a lot of people refer to it as like, you know, similar energy to the new year. It's like September is like a new energy for a new year. And then you've got January as well. However, that's what we were sort of chatting about last week, it was like, okay, but how, how do we balance that when I'm also feeling like, oh, the coziness of fall and the like, you know, it's sweater season, it's soup season, it's pumpkin spice latte season, if that's your thing. It's all the things kind of warm and cozy, and just slower paced. And so it's it's almost like a dichotomy for how to Yeah, balance this. And I guess, and you know, as most of our listeners probably know, I have two children. So I'm back into the back to school, looking forward to the new routines. But it was also, you know, like all of a sudden, Tuesday, first day back to school, and one of my daughters is like, Mom, I have dance tonight. What? Oh, right. We're like, Yeah, not just back to school, we're back to all the extracurricular we're back to all the things. So Jen, and I thought that kind of diving into that and sharing our experiences and sharing what we do to kind of work with the power of the seasons would be helpful. So yeah, we're gonna dive into today,

Jen Lang: 00:04:26

I felt I was actually responding to what you said, I felt the same way where the karate school that I practiced with moto moto Canada, water, karate, we're getting getting classes ramped up and trying to, you know, encourage more people and more kids to join, I guess they're starting a, you know, a sort of a ramping up stage of bringing in some new students into the school. And at the same time, I want to go and at the same time, my body's like, I just want to rest it's the shorter days. It's the longer nights and I really like you you referenced you know, soup season and cooking. I like I love this time of year for the bounty of goodness. And that's the buisiness that I want, I want the, I want the silly, I don't want business, but I want the activity to be centered around the home and going into a new type energy rather than outward, going out to this going out to that, and I must be hard as a parent, I'm sure. You know, I talked to another friend of mine who's she was like taxi for the last four days because her husband was doing some sailing. And she's like, Yeah, I just got home from taking my son to golf. And, you know, every kid is involved in some activity, and she and her husband each have their own activities. I was like, That just sounds exhausting.

Jane Stark: 00:05:43

Yeah, yeah, I think and I mean, definitely, as a parent. And again, I you know, I talked to my clients about this, and my friends who are also parents, it's so tricky to find that balance to have extracurricular activities. And like you say, it's not just even your kids extracurricular activities, but what do you need as well, right? And how do you fit that in there? Like, I'm like, Okay, I'm looking to change up my fitness routine, come fall, and probably wanting to join, you know, some sort of, I think out of the house fitness, I'm kind of at the point where I'm like, I can't just do online zoom fitness classes anymore. And, you know, I'm like, okay, but so how do I, when do I fit this in? And what nice, does that work with the kids, other activities and whatnot, and it can, it can all of a sudden become just your Monday to Friday? No, not even Monday to Friday, cuz I know a couple of weeks, some people like seven days a week soccer and all these things that you got gay on weekends and practices during the week. So it is seven days a week, and all of a sudden, you're just shuttling kids around, you know, tagging off your partner. And it's a lot. So yeah, how do we? How do we come back and find that, that spaciousness? How do we embrace some of the changes, I think you touched on one point that I've already noticed, is the shorter days, make for a little bit longer evenings, where you kind of can come in words, you know, it's a much different energy than say, and again, we're talking northern hemisphere here, but July where I live, you know, it's laid out to almost 10pm. And I love it like Juju I, I love that. However, there's also a part of me that gets to this place now where I'm like, Oh, it's kind of nice that it's getting dark at eight o'clock. And then, you know, very quickly, it gets to be four o'clock. And I'm like, little early. But you know, it does allow for everybody to kind of come back in, to settle in to, you know, have some downtime to get to bed earlier. Yeah. You know, and that was sweet sleep, hygiene,

Jen Lang: 00:07:57

hygiene. And you know, the other totally one of those things. And actually, I'm just reflecting because we're recording this, I think it's September 12 today, but this episode is going to go out on the 21st, which is the equinox, where you have the equal light equal dark, the so that really is that flip into if you're in the Northern Hemisphere, flipping into those longer nights where you have more darkness than light than if you're in the southern hemisphere, obviously, that's reversed and you're feeling a very different pole, because it's spring in the southern hemisphere. And that energy and that, obviously, their school year doesn't also revolve around that September thing, either their school year, actually, I think it's closer on Christmas, because they get their summer break around Christmas, and their school year begins in January. So it's very interesting, noting that, even though those of us who are out of school, who are out of school, how much our society is still built around that academic school year, and the start of the academic here. I don't know if that's true for universities as well in the southern hemisphere. I'm not sure at that maybe some of my Aussie friends, Kiwi friends can respond to that.

Jane Stark: 00:09:08

But yeah, I'm not familiar with that. As we go

Jen Lang: 00:09:10

into this, you know, I'm going to speak to I think, because both Jane and I are in the northern hemisphere of this podcast, and this episode particularly is geared toward this towards this sweater season, honoring the space honoring the need to go within while at the same time being aware of the responsibilities that we've taken on for our families to derive them and to do more activities with them and to also what fills your cup so the sleep hygiene piece you've referenced, so maybe it's going to bed half an hour earlier or even an hour earlier than you were in the summer. I just retired shut everything down and go to bed.

Jane Stark: 00:09:52

Yeah, and it's you know, again working with the with Mother Nature. Yeah occur earlier signals your body to Start to shut down earlier. So don't fight that and resist that, when you know going with that, I notice for myself, I found it very interesting. Over the last few years, I've noticed one of my daughters, her system is so closely tied to the seasons. And so she has trouble falling asleep. In the spring and summer, when the days get lighter, her bedtime, just naturally and I mean, many kids I think for a lot of us are bedtimes do naturally get later because like I say it's lighter out. But it's so fascinating, because I noticed as soon as fall hits, she's back in school, so she's a little more tired. But also, I think it's that that earlier, evening light comes in, and her system just switches on shift, like her bedtime by an hour to an hour and a half earlier, almost naturally, like last fall, it was she all of a sudden was just like mom, like I need to go to bed. And she would be telling me and asking me to go to bed. So I now can take advantage of that. And I've learned how to work within the rhythms of all of it. So now it's like, okay, so she's getting, I'm getting her to bed earlier, which is helping me have that time after to kind of get my downtime and get myself to bed earlier. Whereas in the summer, we were practically going to bed at the same time. So it's, you know, it's quite fascinating to see how that works, too, and how and finding that rhythm within your family. And she really, she really showed me that, like, I never recognized that even within myself until I started to kind of see that and learn that from her. But I think that, again, that takes awareness, and it takes paying attention because we fight it right, we have lights on in our house, like we have a schedule to meet. Yeah, we're on screens where, you know, if we're not paying attention, then we can't, you know, we've, we have so many artificially derived things in our life, that we can actually block out the natural, you know, elements of Mother Earth and working with those times. So I think kind of ties into the slowing down to be able to pay attention to these things. Yeah.

Jen Lang: 00:12:07

And that, I think that I really feel like so what you're referencing there with that slowing down piece is listening to our natural bio rhythm. And that by rhythm within our own bodies, that internal clock, if we're so wrapped up in all of our activities that we have, we've completely shut down the ability to look at our to be attention to our bio rhythm, then we're going to be completely out of sync. And I'm wondering if there's been any studies, I'm sure there has been, but they're probably not widely published around the effects of ignoring your bio rhythm on your overall well being. So I know there's been some studies with shift workers around that, with particularly those who work in nursing or in and out of, you know, dictating 12 hour shifts, there's been studies around that. But that's sort of day to day, night to night, day, night, day night. I think what the seasonal change, it's a bit more subtle. And unless you work in an industry, the handful of friends who have a vineyard who, whose lives are very much tied to the natural rhythms and natural cycles of the growing season and the earth. Unless you are working in that kind of industry, you don't necessarily have the time and space to consider that or like you, maybe you're big into gardening, so you pay attention to those pieces. But I think I think that's actually now reflecting out loud here. I think that's also symptomatic of a larger way that we ignore the feminine within, and those divine feminine cycles that we've lost touch with where we are, it's called Mother Earth for a reason. Right? So by disregarding or ignoring your natural signals, doesn't matter how you gender identify, or if you don't gender identify, it doesn't matter. If you're ignoring those natural cycles, then you're shutting down access to that feminine energy within yourself. fascinating, fascinating stuff.

Jane Stark: 00:14:04

Nothing. Yeah, that Yeah, and you're, you're so right around the feminine energy, because that's the flow piece, right? That's the like, the emotion, the allowing the flow of the movement, all of that. It also makes me think of another lesson that I've learned in the last couple of years around the whole thing of like, slow down to speed up. Yeah. So I imagine and I was, at one time this person that you know, kept hearing this message of we need to slow down and just create space is slow down and you're like, yeah, that's nice to say, but again, my kids have extracurricular and my husband's traveling for work, and I need to, you know, keep building my business or doing the things but it's not about the external. I don't know if I if I built it to say this the way it is. It's in my head. But it's sort of, it's about your state of being. Yeah, I found that once I could tap into that and figure that out, and I really could start to slow down and prioritize and really look at things on my list and go, what is truly a priority right now? What truly needs to get done? Or where can I maybe get some help? Where can you know I have somebody else, take a child here, or do this or that, so that I can even just create the space for myself? It made a huge difference. And it didn't necessarily look like take taking things right off my plate. Like, it didn't look like having, like doing less. Yeah, if that makes sense. It was just all of a sudden, it was like, Oh, I feels more spacious. So I think that's a part of like, yes, there is the more logistical side of this of, hey, how much is on your plate? How many, you know, how much are you putting on, you know, in terms of what your kids are doing and what you're doing? And all the things and what can you cut, but it's also more around, coming inward? From an energetic perspective on coming inward to ourselves, and allowing that time we've talked about reflection, and I don't remember what episode it was, but we have a whole episode on the power of reflection. Yes, that's a big, a big piece of what we're talking about, right? This this season, this slowing down this, you know, earlier, or longer evenings, longer darkness, less lightness is about being able to come inward and connect back with ourselves and reflect.

Jen Lang: 00:16:41

Yeah, so that episode, you reference, it just looked it up, it was episode nine, the power of reflection. So we'll reference that episode in the show notes as well. creating space for reflection. And I think there's a couple of points you touched on there that I want to like highlight is that sometimes it's simply a shift in perception. Rather than you don't not really doing anything differently. It is the intention and the spaciousness around the doing that has changed. And that gives you the ability to move into that space of reflection a bit more easily. That she's funny story. I went down to the beach on Tuesday to reflect on some things. And I took my journal with me and it was like, I just had a little window of time about an hour. And I some stuff would come up. I was like, Oh, I just want to process it. So I took my journal, wrote the date wrote the first sentence and a bird crapped on the page. Like, smack right in the middle, like not, not the time to write. Apparently not the time reflection. That

Jen Lang: 00:17:43

was a big FAQ for where it was like, yeah.

Jane Stark: 00:17:49

No journaling.

Jen Lang: 00:17:53

Be with the Ocean who know. Yeah, that's a that's a good one. It was a it was like, it couldn't have been clearer. Because usually, you know, I don't usually take my journal places to reflect to usually it's, you know, sometimes they'll take you to the beach, but usually it's my meditation chair. And this time, I just thrown it in my purse, I had another errands to run. And this was like a big, kind of like, nope, you're not going to write right now. You're not going to write this through, just sit there and be and take in where you are, are being in the present right now. That was so it was such a clear sign and clear signal. So for those of you who don't have kids, maybe it's taking those micro moments, you know, if you maybe already do this, maybe you don't. But if you're sitting in the car waiting for pickup, close your eyes, don't pick up your phone, close your eyes and breathe, take three breaths.

Jane Stark: 00:18:48

The other piece, and I think was it, we talked about this, like the power of being in the like, visualizing what you desire. And yeah, being in that space and just allowing. I am back to you. Go ahead, your comment on it sometimes just a shift in perspective. And perception. I think that is that is that that space where if you can start to be in that energy, then you open up and allow some of that to flow to you. Right. And sometimes it's sort of it's like, it's an element of manifestation, but it's allowing things to come to you in ways that you maybe can't foresee.

Jen Lang: 00:19:39

This was an interesting example because I have something to follow up on that were a family member who we've been out of contact with for the past couple of years. Kurt went and met them on Saturday morning, and they ended up coming back to the house and we hung out and I hadn't seen this person for a couple of years. I They've had some they've had they've been journeying. They've had some ups and downs. And it was so interesting to talk to them. And they said, they're like when I was doing the work. A few years ago, they were working with Kirk on a few things. When I was doing this work with Kirk and I was changing my vibration. And I was meeting new people. And they were like, these people just appeared in my life, because I had changed my perception and my vibration around how I was approaching my life. And they were like, I was reading this book, and then I was having a conversation with someone and led to this meeting. And then this happened. So when we take that change in perception, and we're really changing our vibration, we're changing the people that with whom we connect with, and then that allows the old stuff to fall away. And I think that's also part of the power of harnessing seasonal change is knowing what to let go of now with this seasonal change. So what needs to change externally for an internal shift to happen? And also, what can you shift internally to allow some of the external stuff to just fall away?

Jane Stark: 00:21:16

Yeah. Yes, or to or for that to shift all of a sudden, and then you see something totally different? Right? Yeah. So I'd love to dive in a little bit to some of the tangible ways. Yes, we that we embraced the change of season. Sorry, just took a sip of water there was like it was loving that up for her. I know

Jen Lang: 00:21:47

exactly. Some of the tangible ways. Well, so are you asking me how I yeah, sorry.

Jane Stark: 00:21:53

directing a question to you, I was thinking in my head and like, okay, she's gonna respond to this.

Jen Lang: 00:21:59

Living it real. Yes, I am gonna respond right after we're finished with sip of water. So we had a good laugh. So yes, tangible ways. I love amin, obviously, I love cooking and baking, and creating warmth in the home that way. So it's really important to me this season to set aside a bit more time for that cooking and baking, but also be mindful of the energy that that takes, and so it's, it will be going to bed earlier. For me, that's definitely a big part of it. It's also eating more seasonally, so maybe fewer salads, more cooked vegetables, yeah, to keep the digestion, digestion, happy. And more warming foods. So I'm about to again, go into this another month long, cleanse, period and cleanse process. And instead of eating like two big salads a day, it might be a salad every second day, and then preparing some other vegetables and warm food. You know, like cooking some frozen peas or steamed broccoli, and those kinds of things to warm up my sister, another

Jane Stark: 00:23:08

one where when we start to slow down and pay attention to what our body wants to like, I've noticed I I'm a big smoothie person. I love smoothies. And I find it a quick and easy way to get my new nutrients in. But I've noticed in the past week, I'm not really feeling like a smoothie in the mornings, or actually any time during the summer, a few afternoons especially because we've still had some really nice days and it's warmed up. And I'm like, Okay, yeah, kind of feeling like my smoothie. But this morning, I was in the kitchen going, what do I feel like for breakfast? What would feel nourishing to me and I wanted to just make this movie because I'm like, that's I'm going to get my greens in I'm going to get all the different like Fridays in and out. But I tuned in and my body was like, Nope, it's it's not smoothie. Whether you're exactly or just because that cold in your digestion, it does make a difference. And so I think

Jen Lang: 00:24:02

that also offers tuning in and also offers better immune support to you, when you're living out of synch with what your body is asking for. Then your immune system is going to suffer your body's ability to fight off or to maintain its integrity to stay healthy and not take on illness.

Jane Stark: 00:24:21

Yeah, it's another point we touched on too, right? We're headed into cold and flu season. Yeah, North America as well. And so what can we be doing? You know, thinking back into all the things we know and hear all the time for improved immunity and how does help support our systems? And so yeah, I mean, similar to you, it's it's sleep hygiene, it's

Jen Lang: 00:24:44

warmer food, warmer

Jane Stark: 00:24:45

foods. It's, I mean, I take supplements kind of year round, but it's making sure I've even noticed like my my, my routine and my what's the word? I'm looking for commitment, but like, regimen Ting, taking my supplements has fallen off this summer because my schedule has been all over the place. And, you know, sometimes I just miss my lunchtime ones or whatever. And I don't sweat it like, yeah, like, that's where I want to live in that flow. But now I'm kind of back to like, Okay, again, coming in words, being a little bit more grounded. And getting back to that regular schedule of making sure that I'm taking, you know, and a lot of it's the simple like making sure I'm getting my vitamin C and my vitamin D in and whatnot. So definitely those tools and tips to, to support our immune system is really important and food and like you say, giving your body the nutrients and the nutritious food that it's once asking

Jen Lang: 00:25:45

for. The other I'd say another sort of practical way of looking at it might be, what sort of activity is your body looking for, it might not be Push, push, push, run, run run all the time. But it might be something along the lines of today, I feel like doing a gentle yoga, but the next day, follow it again. But we've referred to other episodes following the energy. And at the same time, allowing for your allowing for a tendency where we don't want to push ourselves. So it's finding that balance, but the more you tune into, and what I'm trying to say here is the more you tune into what you're looking for, the less like you You likely you are to over push and injure or leave yourself open to illness. And at the same time, the stronger You will be and the more resilient you will be for that extra push when you need it. If you're doing training, or if you're doing to train for a particular event, I think it's even more important to tune in and listen to those subtle signals from your body. And if you're a runner, you know, and you're quote, unquote, scheduled to do a 5k run today and your body's like hell no, then do a 4k and figure something out. You know, it's some runners may disagree on personally not a runner. Like Jay and I've talked about before. We were like the only way you're running, like running from the zombies. I used to run. I used to I had a I did a running course. I don't know, years ago, which again, wasn't terrible, but it wasn't the most fun thing. I was like, Look, I'd rather go to karate and sweat my butt off. Going to karate I would running five K's. So again, again, trying those things out tuning into your body and saying what would what would feel good right now?

Jane Stark: 00:27:39

Yeah, the power of turning into your body, right? And just how we, when we're not slowing down, then we're living from the neck up and we're in our head and we're going by the things the ego wants the things that we think we should do. We're going by old habits or old patterns and whatnot. Whereas when we slow down and can check in like today, this morning, I decided that for the next week, everything as much as I can. Everything I do, I'm checking in with my body and literally having a conversation with it. Hey, buddy, what do we want for breakfast this morning? Okay, hey, what do I feel like doing next in my day? Like I have a list of all you know, different things that I need to get done but actually truly being so aware and being like okay, so is it getting exercise? is it doing some housework? Is it having a shower is it you know, and like just really like all these minute little things just as I'm doing it more as an experiment to really start to see and pay attention and also to build up my trust in that process and in my knowing because sometimes I'll probably override it right like and that's just like, again, my ego jump in and be like yeah, you want those potato chips

Jen Lang: 00:29:00

like the other day. We both we both fell victim to that the other day but it was you know, whatever. It's again, that free

Jane Stark: 00:29:11

fall thing. Potato chips. Seasonal.

Jen Lang: 00:29:15

Seasonal thing. They're not your thing. Yeah, like honestly for me kirpal say he's like all the noble potato I was like I eat the potato anytime my my Irish German ancestry is really excited when I when I take on potato but I also like what's you know, making squash soups and yeah, you know, we've talked about soup season. I love soups and stews. I have to say I've definitely that is one area. I would say I haven't actually I don't think Jane and I have done much cooking together now. But Kirk and I are both avid cooks we love being in the kitchen, cooking and baking. I'd say I'm more of the baker than he is. But having gone recently gluten free. I'm now experiment doing more with changing recipes around. Switching some things up. I made a really good gluten free Pear Tart yesterday. So it's so good. But I love soups and soups and stews. So what warm hearty Hmm. nourishing food one dish meals

Jane Stark: 00:30:18

and listening, just checking in, try it Play, play around for a little bit and just like, see what your body tells you? Like, you know, and just like you I did it again. I was like, Okay, I want to move my body Hey body like, is it yoga? is it taking the dog for a walk? Is it weightlifting? Is it you know, using the rebounder? And following that and just trusting that the answer, I get the thing that feels like the Yes, and my body is what I need to follow and do. So we'll see. I'm, like I say I'm playing around, I kind of I do bring that in to my life in a lot of ways. But I'm trying to be more even more intentional about it over the next seven days and to like with everything that I can remember to do it with and just kind of see what I learned so much more back on that.

Jen Lang: 00:31:06

I think that's a fine idea. So what we've talked about some of the practical things, you know, like the cooking and the going to bed early. Is there any other if you're, you know, in your position, Jane, where you have two kids, and you're doing a lot of activity management within your family? What sort of practical ways? Can people in your similar situation? You know, we've talked about the sleep hygiene and going to bed a bit earlier? Is there anything else that stands out?

Jane Stark: 00:31:36

I think, you know, it's been said many times, but as parents, we have to learn to ask for help boundaries. So you know, one of my daughters, she does some dance, she does Irish dance already. But she wanted to add more dance and join another dance studio this fall. And I looked at the schedule. And the times were hard. And she also is keen to join, like now that sports are back in school, she's keen to join basketball and potentially volleyball. And so I finally had to sit down with her and I was like, you know, hon, I would love for you to do this. But this is going to be your schedule is going to be so full and non stop. And in my head I'm going and that that impacts me too. So, you know, sitting down and we had the chat, like, what's your priority? Let's pick a few things and see, like, you know, if you want to do basketball this year, let's see how that goes and what your schedule looks like. And then next year, maybe we add the dancing or not. So, you know, having those conversations, I think it's tricky. As parents we get caught up in we want our kids to experience all the things and have all the things in it. And there is an element of it's good for them to be busy. We've seen that over the last 18 months, when all of a sudden we had a lot of these things taken away. So but really sitting down and being really truthful and honest with what do you want your life to look like? Do you want to be shuttling your kids around? 24? Seven, you know, is that what fills your cup and, and you know, you thrive on that buisiness and seeing your kids excel at all those things, and it's good for them. Great. But for us, I know personally for us that just doesn't, that doesn't feel good. So you know, and even having to have those conversations with her. What else?

Jen Lang: 00:33:32

I think those are healthy, like while you think of the next thing, just even from that perspective of sitting down with your child, and say, I love that you're interested in all of these things. However, it's not practical or possible to do all of these things and still enjoy school and enjoy family time. So what would what would what's your most what's the most? What are your top two, for example? Yeah. And then figure out how to make that work. And as a family, what

Jane Stark: 00:34:03

happens when you engage your kids? Yes, these conversations and in these decisions, like, so many times, I'm amazed at you know, I'll throw something out to them. And thinking, you know, I'll get kind of a whatever, child kid answer back and they'll like, you know, she'll sit down and be like, Yeah, no, I see what you mean, Mom, you're right, or Yeah, no, then I think I need to stick with this and this and it's like, Okay, great. Like, she's here. She's fully capable of seeing this and making decisions when I actually like to say bring them in. So yeah, I mean, having those boundaries, the typical, you know, we talk a lot in our house about healthy habits, and, you know, protecting their energy to because, you know, this is the other thing. They're going out every day to school now. And it's a lot of people and it's a lot of energy. Yeah, you know, it's a lot and so helping Then build in those foundations of the things that I learned as an adult, I want to help them build those foundations in as a child to understand that downtime is healthy downtime is okay. Yeah, having a chance to reset. What else? Obviously, bringing the food piece into them as well. Yeah, making sure that there's nourishment there. Finding time, for family time and for yourself. On weekends. You know, we kind of last through last winter, we started doing Friday night sushi and Movie Night, to the point where we all got really sick of sushi. We had to take a break from that. But you know, it was something that they look forward to I know, lots of people who do pizza and movie night and things like that. And so, but it's something that kind of brings that connection back in, right? Again, we all know that, you know, connections, another huge piece, especially Yes, in these trying times,

Jen Lang: 00:35:59

definitely. There's, there are always opportunities for connection, we just have to make the my priority. Mm hmm. And that is one of those. I think that's one of the seasonal change, when you harness that power of seasonal change. What is it asking you to connect to on a more deep on a deeper level? So every season has those different connection points. So what is this seasonal change mean for you? And how can it ask you to connect more deeply with the things that nourish you that fill your soul that move you forward? And don't keep you stuck? Because at first, we're always trying to hang on to summer, but seasonal change is just a part of that process.

Jane Stark: 00:36:44

And, you know, if you're feeling blocked, if it feels like Well, that's just not possible for my life. I challenge people to look at that, right? Yes, that's mindset. That's our mental blocks showing up.

Jen Lang: 00:37:00

And that's a shift in perception that we talked about earlier in this episode, how can you shift your perception around what's possible and what's not super soft?

Jane Stark: 00:37:08

For me that that came through working with coaches, and through doing a lot of that deeper reflection work? Or, you know, a friend, you know, people somebody that could really hold the space? Yeah. Not kind of not bond with me over it. But truly, let me process it out. But yeah, breaking down the barriers of why wait, I think what you were just gonna say about when you're still married to something,

Jen Lang: 00:37:35

yes, you're still married to an idea of way the way something is supposed to be and you ordered or is or happens to be. And you might not even realize that you're married to that idea. It's just that that behavior, the behavior that you can't quite see yet. And this is what the pause to observe can help you do that that behavior you can't quite see is keeping you stuck in this pattern. And maybe the seasonal change is the perfect opportunity for you to address, what are the patterns I'm married to that I have the power to change that you didn't maybe didn't see before, then this actually is probably a really good time to mention that Jan and I are creating something around this. So we are dropping some hints. I don't know how much do you want to say about it?

Jane Stark: 00:38:28

I think we can be open, we can say it's still in the works. But let's just I don't think Yeah, okay, go for it, we're basically got some

Jen Lang: 00:38:37

justice, like we're creating a playbook for just this kind of thing where you can look at these patterns in your life that aren't quite, that maybe aren't as satisfying as they used to be, or you know, something needs to shift and you're not really sure how that might shift. So we're creating a resource called the empowerment playbook. That's going to be available probably in the next coming in the coming weeks. And we will be talking more about that the work, there is going to be a community call starting a free community call. So we are Yeah, building and bringing you more and fun. Wait. Yeah, I was

Jane Stark: 00:39:15

just gonna say it's basically it's is born out of recalling the impairment playbook, but it's kind of it I think the working name originally was like the weird jet engine playbook, where we're gonna take you through our process for how we navigate this. And what we've learned and how we've got to the place we're at in terms of the techniques and the tools and the mindset work, and the energy work we've done. Yeah, you know, so I'm looking forward to lots of different ways that we can kind of pull that through because back to what you were saying earlier, too, I think the shift of perception is it's a choice, right? Yeah, everything is always a choice and that can be really triggering to hear. I know I've been triggered by that before. Because when all of a sudden we're faced with the fact that you know what we're feeling stuck in a situation. And it's like, well, you're kind of choosing that.

Jen Lang: 00:40:06

Yeah, it's confronting, it's confronting.

Jane Stark: 00:40:10

But this is also the piece that Jen and I, I think our foundation is built upon is this idea of owning it. And when we start to own the fact that, oh, I guess I am choosing X, Y, and Z, even if it's sort of, I don't feel like I'm choosing it, but it's like, well, I'm choosing it by not doing this, right when we really start to dissect it. So when you start to own it, and when you start to own where you're at, that's where change can happen. Definitely, where we can start to create that more spacious, nourishing life.

Jen Lang: 00:40:47

Yeah, sounds good to you. Stay tuned, tune in to following episodes because we will be sharing more about the empowerment playbook and some of these techniques. And we would love to hear from you. If you found this episode, something stood out for you about this episode. Maybe you are questioning some things inside your head around the habits you might have or the things you can't quite see, Jane and I would always love to hear from you. It's just as simple as reaching out to us on social media or Instagram is probably the easiest, most direct way to get in touch with us right now. Or you can send us an email to Hello at we are Jen and jane.com that's a really simple, easy way. I think we're gonna wrap it

Jane Stark: 00:41:32

up anything else? No. I think that's kind of looking forward to putting the warm worldly socks on to new season. I like to Oh, yes, person. Yeah. cheeks and hats. Yeah, let us know how you're embracing this new season. And yeah. Yeah,

Jen Lang: 00:41:51

we'll be sharing more about all these tips and tricks on our Instagram. So definitely go and take a look. Our Instagram is at we are Jenna Jane. And with that, we're gonna sign off have an amazing rest of your day, and or night, wherever you're listening to this. And maybe just for fun. Try going to bed half an hour earlier tonight. And see how you feel the next day notice what your body wants. Yeah, notice having an awesome day.

Jane Stark: 00:42:15

Bye Bye.

Jen Lang: 00:42:21

Thanks for joining us for these conscious combos. If you're ready to dive deeper head on over to lead gen and jane.com to continue the conversation.