NLP to NDEs with Adele Anderson, Part 2 of 2

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Hi, everybody, welcome back to another episode of no

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halos here with Jen Ling and Jane Stark. We're really excited

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to have Adelle Anderson back here again this week to give

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part two of this interview. Last week, we talked all about NLP or

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Neuro Linguistic Programming, how it works, some of the more

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recent brain science behind it, how you can apply it and use it

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effectively in your day to day life. So go back and listen to

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that episode, if you haven't, but you don't have to have

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listened to it in order to get lots of value and fun out of

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what we're going to talk about today. Which is a little bit

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more about Adele's time, story and paths and how she came to

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NLP. And also her N D E or near death experience, in addition to

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a few other things. So welcome back, Adele. Great to have you

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here.

Adele Anderson: 00:01:39

Yeah, so fun to be here. love spending time with

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the ladies.

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Yeah. So for our listeners, if they haven't

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listened to last week's episode, maybe could you give yourself a

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quick little intro? Who are you? And what do you do? And then

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we'll jump in.

Adele Anderson: 00:01:53

Okay. Adele Anderson from life coach, Adele,

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I'm an NLP trainer, which means I trained practitioners in

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neurolinguistics programming. And I am also a coach that helps

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people through the life and death process. So I assist

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grieving families to find grace grounding and growth.

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Beautiful. That's wonderful. How fantastic. So

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then how, tell us how you got into that specific aspect of the

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NLP work?

Adele Anderson: 00:02:22

Yes, so my husband died last year. So that

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was a journey, like no other. And until you've really had a

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deep loss, they call it a catastrophic loss, a loss of a

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parent, child or a spouse. And that really changed my outlook

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on the need to help families through this, because I've never

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experienced something that was so crushing. And I had a lot of

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tools that I didn't have enough tools. And so through the

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process of my own grief, over the past only nine months now,

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I've developed a way to help people to really shift the deep

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emotions that come up with grief. And to understand that we

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were never meant to live, this isn't a lifestyle to to be

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grieving. And that emotions, if we compare them to a physical

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ailment, because they have a lot of physiology attached to them,

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but to understand, if we leave that unchecked, for two to three

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months, it can become a mindset. And then if we leave that

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unchecked for four months, it becomes chronic. And that means

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it becomes a personality trait. And so if you know of anybody,

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and we usually do have someone that we know of or even know

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personally, that has never gotten over a deep loss, and it

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becomes them. And that's really, really sad. So I just found that

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this is a passion purpose project for me, is to help

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people remove this deep emotional pain.

Jane Stark: 00:04:02

Wow. So you mentioned that you had a lot of

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tools, but that you realized that you actually were still

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missing some what what were the tools that you felt like you

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were missing or that you've had to bring into your life through

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this process.

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So I really I really believe that grief is a

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body mind and soul solution. And even though I'm I was a very

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spiritual person, because I'd had the near death experience

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that didn't make it any easier when my husband passed, the

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grief was devastating. But I found that it was really the

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soul connection that I needed in order to heal. I really felt my

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soul was broken. And until I plugged in deeply, to that

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spiritual part of our beingness I, you know, I was struggling

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and that was a key awakening for me is you know, we talk about

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body, mind and soul but what does that mean, and what part of

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our beingness and we can get into the infinite nature of

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beingness. And the science behind it, which, you know,

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tells us that eternal is irrefutable. Now, the science.

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Yeah, that that side, it fascinates me as well.

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And even what we're seeing right now, and you know, you're from

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our last interview, you're very much rooted in science, right?

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We talk all about the brain science and whatnot. So I find

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it fascinating how sometimes, and again, the narrative that we

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hear so much right now is about the science and the spiritual

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side, there's like this polarity where it can't be both. So

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hearing what you're sharing right now just gives me chills

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in that, you know, because I really do personally believe

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that. It's both. And I've also had a near death experience. So

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I have a little bit of that context as well. But I'm just

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fascinated by that. And I would love to dive into that even a

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little bit more with your experience around this and how

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you've brought those two together and felt that both of

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those tools are the pieces, the pieces that you needed.

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So if anybody's, you know, searching for that

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information, I mean, there is so much information out there,

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there's 50 years of resuscitation research, there's

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50 plus years of Near Death Experience Research, which

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really is irrefutable. You know, a near death experience has very

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many very common themes that, you know, 5% of the world's

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population of habit has had m&d 17% of those people have

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cognitive recall, which is different from daydreaming or

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wishful thinking where they can actually recall specific

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incidences typically in a clinical setting where maybe

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they've died on an operating table. So you know, these are

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the, these are the research documents that are better there.

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But if we look even into like some of the leading scientists

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today, and I'm a follower of Dr. Robert Lanza, and he has a book

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that's called biocentrism, which is sort of the next step out of

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quantum physics or quantum theory, where Einstein had

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quantum physics as the formulas for space and time and there was

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always the inability for that to be correct in every

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circumstances, they always had to make little adjustments. And

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so Robert Lanza, took out physics and put in biology and

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now all of a sudden, all of those formulas work. So, so it's

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really fascinating. You know, what Einstein said it, you know,

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there's all the way through time you can think of all the great

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philosophers which philosophers 100 years ago, or were simply a

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change name to scientists these days. But, you know, time and

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space are an illusion. It's an insect that we've used as a

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human being. And so if time and space do not exist, then life

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and death are also an illusion. So there is overwhelming

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evidence in the eternal nature of our beingness

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and that is our episode everybody.

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Life and death is an illusion. Mic drop,

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we're out mic drop and for done so first, serenity.

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Yeah. Okay.

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So can you take us back? Can you take us back and

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share a little bit of the story of your near death experience?

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It was in a plane crash if I'm not mistaken.

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Yeah, a small plane town tandem plane,

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amphibious, which means it has pontoons. So I was 27. I said,

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it's a perfectly sunny day, you know, the ones bright and balmy

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and with Phil with the adventures of a 27 year old and

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we have been out flying over patchwork green fields that were

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stitched together by a Snake River and then banked on either

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side by snowcapped mountains. And I'd really spent the day

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dropping in and out of the sky, and with the windows open and

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the smell of fresh cut grass on the air that you know, blew

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through the air in my mind. And then we were heading back to the

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airport that small planes can't fly at night. So you know, we

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would have already turned the plane around and are heading

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back and then his voice erupted over the the earphones and I

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followed my gaze past his outstretched arm past his

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fingertips that pointed to this river far below us. And he

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wanted to take this the plane and sweep it down and he would

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skip it across the water like flat stones and then roar back

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up into the sky. So without a care in the world, I you know, I

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felt the nose of the plane tilt towards the earth and we just

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pummeled downward just like a roller coaster. Wow. And then we

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made contact with the water and the plane flipped. It drove the

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nose of the plane deep in the water flooding the cabin. I saw

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him go under I went to take a breath of air and my mouth

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filled with water. And there I was upside down total blackness.

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Buoyancy pulling me up gravity pulling me down. Things were

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bumping my body it was very confusing. I had a mouthful of

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water and lastly, I discovered I was trapped. The three point

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harness had tangled around the lifejacket who words that I was

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wearing, and I couldn't find the release. So the next thing I

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felt was my feet hit the cabin floor hard and I pushed, but it

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simply dug the three point harness into my shoulder blades

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again, confirming that I was trapped. And then I, you know,

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was trying to open my eyes, but there was gasoline in the in the

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water, and it just seemed my eyes closed once again. And I

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remember that feeling and my long hair was being drugged

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through my eyelids. And I was, you know, sort of fighting for,

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you know, where to find this harness. And then I noticed this

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tingling sensation start to go through my fingertips and moving

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into my extremities. And we all know this feeling. If we were

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ever that kid who tried to swim underwater as far as we could

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go, we know when we had to come up. And that was happening to me

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then. And it was sort of, you know, sending a warning sign

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through my brain and been a lifeguard competitive swimmer, I

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knew exactly what was happening. So you were

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familiar with water. Yeah,

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very familiar with the water wasn't panicking

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at this point. And so that was like striking a match and movie

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of my life began to flash in front of my brain, in front of

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my mind's eye. And so you know, billions of images from the

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moment of my birth, came all the way through that day. And like

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the sun going down on that day, I separated from my body. And

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then all of a sudden, my perception, my perspective

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changed, I was somewhere above myself in this bright light that

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was shining like a flashlight down onto that plane below. And

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I could see her upside down in that plane with her long blonde

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hair blowing wildly in the water. And yet, I felt strangely

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unattached to her pain, and, you know, unconcerned with her

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welfare. Because where I was, I was just fine. I felt peaceful,

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serene. And I had this this permeating feeling of

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unconditional love. And then, I was given a gift, I was given a

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preview of what would happen if I was to die. And that would be

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two police officers walking through my parents front yard at

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the big red brick steps and knocking on their old wooden

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door. And my parents answered the door. And I couldn't hear

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the conversation. But I heard I watched their facial expressions

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change from confusion to acknowledgement, and then it

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turned to horror. And at that point, inside my mind, my mum

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collapsed to the floor, She covered her head with her hands,

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and she screamed, and she screamed really loud inside my

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head. And this is when I made the choice that I wasn't going

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to die that day. And that put me back in my body where I was out

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of breath, and out of time, but I made a very concise choice

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that I was getting out of the plane now. And this is the mind

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science behind choice. There's no right, there's no wrong,

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there's no room for questioning, getting out of the plane now.

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And that was like flipping another switch inside my mind.

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And all of those pictures that had flash forward in time began

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to go in reverse. Back in Time now working my demand, or my my

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ask to find a way for me to escape a plane that had crashed

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and overturned in water. And that the picture stopped in

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front of a scene of a movie that I'd watched decades before, did

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not know the name of the movie, or what came before after the

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names of the actors never knew anything about it. But the scene

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in front of my mind's eye gave me all the information I needed

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to escape a plane that had crashed and overturned in water.

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And I followed the script and I escape the plane and save my own

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life. Yeah. So there was many things that I learned that day.

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But two really fundamental ones, it's I was no longer afraid to

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die. I knew that there was something beyond what I saw at

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first glance, and that gave me you know, they even say it

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changes your brain, people that have had near death experience,

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think differently. And I believe that's true. I couldn't explain

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how I survived until I found NLP. But the other thing that I

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really knew that even in life's most dire circumstances, when we

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think we're out of breath, and out of time, we still have

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ability to make choices that can change the trajectory of our

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life. And this is also mind science. And so then, you know,

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we fast forward into my work, finding NLP, understanding why I

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survived. And then, you know, life continues to unfold. And

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then last year, my husband died. And that became, you know, a

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very difficult journey for me. You know, my soulmate being

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separated from him, and all of the depth of grief that comes

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from that.

Jen Lang: 00:14:48

Interesting. So at the point of this, thank you for

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sharing your story, by the way, and that's it's really, really

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fascinating process about that choice point. I've which I've

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heard read before and I even I've read Dr. Eben Alexander's

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books on both Proof of Heaven and living in a conscious

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universe, I think is the more science based, which is I prefer

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that book. It's really fascinating around nd ease, and

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we will put the names of these resources as well as the Dr.

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Robert Lanza resources you mentioned, we'll put all of that

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into the show notes for our listeners. So you can go and

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check those resources out. But what I want to get back to is

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when at the time of that crash, so I have a question did the

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pilots arrive?

Adele Anderson: 00:15:33

The pilot did survive.

Jane Stark: 00:15:36

I was wondering that too. Yeah. He,

Adele Anderson: 00:15:39

he was under a lot longer than I was I

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actually, you know, curled up onto the pontoon. Almost like

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having a high thought it was an Olympian threw my hands to the

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sky, and that had a big screen, and then I dive back in the

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water, but it was pitch black. The plane was moving quite

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quickly in the current and I never did find him. But on my

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third dive, when I resurfaced, he was up and he was vomiting,

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hanging onto the side of the pontoon. So he was one lucky

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guy.

Jane Stark: 00:16:08

Did he do you know, if he ended up having a similar

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experience like an NDA II as well, or?

Adele Anderson: 00:16:14

I think he did. I don't think he did.

Adele Anderson: 00:16:16

Interesting.

Jane Stark: 00:16:18

Sorry, Jen, was that you had another question? I

Jane Stark: 00:16:19

think. Yeah. My other question

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was did Had you met your husband at this point?

Adele Anderson: 00:16:24

I met my husband shortly after that. Okay,

Jen Lang: 00:16:28

fascinating. Yeah. So interesting. When we have these,

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I know, Jane's got a question, I'm just going to have a quick

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statement here about when we have these experiences. And then

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we meet someone after these experiences, and we are with

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that person for whatever time we have with them. However, that

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works. And the sort of, I'm gonna say codes and information

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that we exchange and have with each other. And it can be an

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intimate partner, it could be a spouse, it could be simply a

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friendship that lasts two or three years, and then you each

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go your separate ways. But it really does get me thinking

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about this limited experience we have as a human being in all the

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facets and ways that we are humans. And at the same time,

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all the beautiful infinite possibilities that live beyond

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that energetic space that we referenced in sort of the first

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and the first time episode last week. So I wanted to put that

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out there because it's just such a, I find this stuff super

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fascinating. And I like the brain science behind it. I play

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in more in the in that spiritual liminal space, myself, so it's

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very, I have not haven't had an NDA II. But I've played in that

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space and done lots of traveling and journeying. And yeah,

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connecting in other different ways. So yeah, it's just

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amazing. It's so fascinating to me how we can have these

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beautiful experiences and yet find this amazing common ground.

Adele Anderson: 00:17:57

Yes, totally. Now, there's a very cool if

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people are interested in you know, life after death, life

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between life, there's a beautiful, he's a PhD in

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psychology, his name is Dr. Michael Newton. And he has a

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book out, I think that it's called life between life,

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something like that, but I can get the reference for you. So

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hypnotherapy, and he was doing a lot of past life regression

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trying to, you know, work with people, very, very renowned

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guys, like we're talking, you know, hundreds of 1000s of

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people working. And so he would be doing past life regression

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with people and trying to solve physical ailments that they just

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couldn't seem to overcome. One, for example, I remember was

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something like this guy had a permanent lamp, and he and

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always pain in his leg. And through past life regression,

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you know, he had lost his leg as a war, some sort of war thing.

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But it was very unexpected that he dropped into life between

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lives. So it was something that was beginning to happen more

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frequently. So then his work really went into the life

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between life and the journey of the soul. And what happens to

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the soul between lives. And the amount of research that he

Adele Anderson: 00:19:21

gathered over decades was phenomenal. So my aunt can see

Adele Anderson: 00:19:27

the development of the soul through the colors that they

Adele Anderson: 00:19:30

become the pods that they're in the, you know, their circle of

Adele Anderson: 00:19:37

beings that stay with them through different journeys,

Adele Anderson: 00:19:40

whether they're supporting them on a soul level versus dropping

Adele Anderson: 00:19:44

into a life and you know, being that person that is within your

Adele Anderson: 00:19:49

your pod. And I really believe that Willis is in my pod that he

Adele Anderson: 00:19:53

is my soul connection and why I say that is there's there seems

Adele Anderson: 00:19:59

to be Indic Keishon you know, I met my husband. One weekend in

Adele Anderson: 00:20:05

Whistler, I was with a girlfriend having coffee outside

Adele Anderson: 00:20:09

and an outdoor cafe. I looked across 1000 people, and I saw

Adele Anderson: 00:20:15

his face. And I said to her, I don't know who he is, but I'm

Adele Anderson: 00:20:19

going to marry him. Wow. And then he's walking through the

Adele Anderson: 00:20:23

crowd. And he walks up the stairs behind me, he leans over

Adele Anderson: 00:20:29

my shoulder, and he kisses my girlfriend on her cheek, he

Adele Anderson: 00:20:32

says, Hi, Anna. And I'm like, Who is he? And why do I not know

Adele Anderson: 00:20:37

him?

Jane Stark: 00:20:38

Wow.

Adele Anderson: 00:20:40

And, you know, so these connections, like, how

Adele Anderson: 00:20:43

would that ever happen? And, you know, so 30 year relationship

Adele Anderson: 00:20:49

later, I really feel that Willis and I are a soul connection.

Adele Anderson: 00:20:53

And, you know, I do believe that we see our loved ones again,

Adele Anderson: 00:20:57

some of them will be in our pods as our influencers and you know,

Adele Anderson: 00:21:01

working with us as our sole development, and then others

Adele Anderson: 00:21:04

will be in other pods that, you know, will come together, but

Adele Anderson: 00:21:07

you're interested in that type of information. These are

Adele Anderson: 00:21:11

fascinating books to read.

Jen Lang: 00:21:13

Yeah, I was reading mice, I received the book, many

Jen Lang: 00:21:15

lives, many masters for Christmas, which is, of course,

Jen Lang: 00:21:18

is a classic and hypnotherapy and past life regression. So

Jen Lang: 00:21:21

it's a quick and easy read. And that was that, you know, again,

Jen Lang: 00:21:26

a great, great confirmation of a lot of the work that a I've

Jen Lang: 00:21:30

experienced for myself, and also be I've done with, I've done

Jen Lang: 00:21:33

with clients, too. So fascinating. Jane,

Jane Stark: 00:21:37

I have so many questions, but unfortunately,

Jane Stark: 00:21:39

you know, we'll have to, we'll have to have a part three and

Jane Stark: 00:21:41

part four. I know. So, you mentioned that NLP really helped

Jane Stark: 00:21:47

you. When after the near death experience, and just why am I

Jane Stark: 00:21:51

here? What how did I survive? Can you just give us a brief

Jane Stark: 00:21:55

kind of walkthrough of how how that looked? And what what you

Jane Stark: 00:21:59

came to with that?

Adele Anderson: 00:22:01

You know, I, it was interesting, I never told

Adele Anderson: 00:22:03

anybody about my near death experience for 25 years. Wow.

Adele Anderson: 00:22:08

But behind the scenes, I was silently searching for the

Adele Anderson: 00:22:12

reasons behind my survival. And I first became a homeopath, that

Adele Anderson: 00:22:16

mind body connection, the communication that is

Adele Anderson: 00:22:19

continually happening between our mind and our body, the

Adele Anderson: 00:22:21

messengers that go back and forth, the feelings that we have

Adele Anderson: 00:22:24

are not random. And understanding that there is a

Adele Anderson: 00:22:28

there is a language, and a lot of times it's lost, because we

Adele Anderson: 00:22:33

just haven't been taught about that. So I did gain some

Adele Anderson: 00:22:36

fundamental knowledge of mind and body through that process.

Adele Anderson: 00:22:41

And that was helpful, but it still didn't give me the

Adele Anderson: 00:22:44

answers. It wasn't until I understood, you know, the

Adele Anderson: 00:22:47

fundamentals of the subconscious brain, which works at 120 to

Adele Anderson: 00:22:52

140,000 miles per hour downloads 40,000 bits of information per

Adele Anderson: 00:22:56

second different than the neocortex, which is our greatest

Adele Anderson: 00:22:59

Phaedrus invention, but works at about 120 miles per hour

Adele Anderson: 00:23:03

downloads 40 bits of information, and we retained

Adele Anderson: 00:23:05

seven. Right? So, you know, this is brilliant, but slow kicks in.

Adele Anderson: 00:23:15

Because it's analyzing and rationalizing. And really, this

Adele Anderson: 00:23:19

powerful brain, middle brain is where all the action takes

Adele Anderson: 00:23:23

place. And the speed of it is enormous. But the function of

Adele Anderson: 00:23:27

it, its only purpose is to keep us alive physiologically that

Adele Anderson: 00:23:33

was working in my favor.

Jen Lang: 00:23:35

Definitely, then

Adele Anderson: 00:23:36

the second thing that it's supposed to do is to

Adele Anderson: 00:23:39

do exactly what we ask, ah, this becomes, you know, this is like

Adele Anderson: 00:23:46

the perfect storm, keep me alive, keep my survival and do

Adele Anderson: 00:23:51

exactly what I asked they match up. If I would have said, I

Adele Anderson: 00:23:56

really want to get out, I can't get out. I don't know what to

Adele Anderson: 00:24:00

do. I'm not good enough. I don't believe I would have survived.

Adele Anderson: 00:24:05

Oh, I just felt like I'm getting out of the plane now. And that's

Adele Anderson: 00:24:10

another key is our brain doesn't understand the past or the

Adele Anderson: 00:24:16

future. Those are manmade ideals. You only understand the

Adele Anderson: 00:24:21

moment, the decision that we're making right now can influence

Adele Anderson: 00:24:25

the future cannot influence the past. But we have to understand

Adele Anderson: 00:24:31

that our brains capacity is to work with what we ask now. A

Adele Anderson: 00:24:37

little bit like a computer the information that you put in so

Adele Anderson: 00:24:41

us as coaches off often, you know, have our clients visualize

Adele Anderson: 00:24:45

the future that they want. So think of this as putting the

Adele Anderson: 00:24:49

programs in the data is going into the computer so that then

Adele Anderson: 00:24:54

we can recognize that when we get there. But if we don't have

Adele Anderson: 00:24:58

that information in And if we say I want to do that tomorrow,

Adele Anderson: 00:25:02

next week, or maybe or try, our brain doesn't know what to do

Adele Anderson: 00:25:07

with that. And so it does nothing. And this is where the

Adele Anderson: 00:25:11

capacity for our belief systems to really sabotage us come in. I

Adele Anderson: 00:25:17

can't do it. I don't know enough. Why me? You know, or,

Adele Anderson: 00:25:23

you know, we could get into victimhood. Opening, none of

Adele Anderson: 00:25:28

those offer us solutions, and none of them turn on that switch

Adele Anderson: 00:25:32

to have this brain working for us.

Jane Stark: 00:25:34

Yeah, it's interesting stories. As you're

Jane Stark: 00:25:37

sharing that and reflecting on my own life, I can see all of a

Jane Stark: 00:25:41

sudden, I'm like, wow, I went through a period about, I don't

Jane Stark: 00:25:44

know, 15 years ago, where my husband and I were like, have,

Jane Stark: 00:25:47

we felt like a black cloud over us? Like, it's just an end, my

Jane Stark: 00:25:51

journey has been completely shifting that and, and so I'm

Jane Stark: 00:25:56

just having a bit of an aha moment of like, wow, it is so

Jane Stark: 00:25:59

powerful. And as you share that, I can see where I did that

Jane Stark: 00:26:02

personally in my life, over the last 10 years.

Adele Anderson: 00:26:05

And you guys talk about radical

Adele Anderson: 00:26:07

responsibility. Yeah. So this, is it. Like, we take

Adele Anderson: 00:26:12

responsibility for every single thing that's going on? Yeah,

Adele Anderson: 00:26:16

there's no sidestepping it. Right. We choose

Jane Stark: 00:26:21

to read chose to save yourself that day.

Adele Anderson: 00:26:23

Yes. And I didn't, I wasn't, you know, and

Adele Anderson: 00:26:28

this is, it shows up in the language that we use. No, it not

Adele Anderson: 00:26:33

taking responsibility is becoming a victim, saying that I

Adele Anderson: 00:26:37

don't have the ability over my own circumstance, where when we

Adele Anderson: 00:26:43

own it, we step into our power, this is where the game changes.

Jane Stark: 00:26:48

Absolutely.

Jen Lang: 00:26:50

Oh, there's so much more I want to unpack here. But

Jen Lang: 00:26:52

I think we'll have to save this for another episode. But I'm the

Jen Lang: 00:26:55

owning it piece, I'm going to sort of park this idea in here

Jen Lang: 00:26:59

is the I hear so many of the other, I'm going to say

Jen Lang: 00:27:04

objections to the owning it and excuses to the owning it, and

Jen Lang: 00:27:10

they're out there. And the owning your ship piece and not

Jen Lang: 00:27:15

everyone else's, that really just sums it up. It's like it,

Jen Lang: 00:27:19

Elva gives you permission to shut out all that other noise.

Jen Lang: 00:27:22

And decide how you want to, like you chose to live, how you want

Jen Lang: 00:27:28

to live is, is up to you, you know, I have so many wonderful

Jen Lang: 00:27:34

examples of friends who've, you know, moved up from other

Jen Lang: 00:27:39

countries in admin complete poverty, who made very conscious

Jen Lang: 00:27:43

decisions early on, and are now you know, keynote speakers in

Jen Lang: 00:27:48

the UK have having made these decisions that buy that along

Jen Lang: 00:27:55

their journey that, you know, so it's, and it's not, it's not as

Jen Lang: 00:28:01

simple as quote unquote, laziness or anything like that.

Jen Lang: 00:28:04

It's that it's everything tied in. It's those thought patterns.

Jen Lang: 00:28:07

It's those beliefs. It's the conditions in which you've been

Jen Lang: 00:28:10

raised. It's your tendencies. Based on the NLP pieces, it's

Jen Lang: 00:28:14

all of these factors that bring you to a place where you are.

Jen Lang: 00:28:19

Oh, so fascinating.

Jane Stark: 00:28:21

Yeah, the biggest, like, what I'm hearing too, is

Jane Stark: 00:28:23

it's the power of having that awareness of your language. It

Jane Stark: 00:28:27

can be if I'm, you know, hearing it, like as simple as starting

Jane Stark: 00:28:31

there. What is your language saying? If you're again, you

Jane Stark: 00:28:35

know, if you put it to a money thing, if you're talking in lack

Jane Stark: 00:28:39

all the time.

Adele Anderson: 00:28:41

Yeah. And it's body, mind and soul, right? So,

Adele Anderson: 00:28:45

I love words impact all aspects of our beingness. And, you know,

Adele Anderson: 00:28:50

they're a really easy one to target as weight people, you

Adele Anderson: 00:28:54

know, people love to talk about weight diets or, you know,

Adele Anderson: 00:28:58

universal, there's always the next greatest fix, but it really

Adele Anderson: 00:29:03

begins in the minds, you know, how do I see myself what do I

Adele Anderson: 00:29:06

believe about me? So here is somebody who wants to lose

Adele Anderson: 00:29:11

weight. And you know, they're they're doing well, maybe

Adele Anderson: 00:29:15

they're on a diet, maybe they're exercising whatever it is, they

Adele Anderson: 00:29:18

might do. At some point, they're gonna fall off the cabbage

Adele Anderson: 00:29:21

truck, it just happens. So you know, get back up. Keep moving

Adele Anderson: 00:29:26

towards your goal. But where we see the sabotage is that you

Adele Anderson: 00:29:32

show up at work, you go to a dinner party, and someone says

Adele Anderson: 00:29:35

to you the great and the thought that goes through your mind as I

Adele Anderson: 00:29:40

thought I looked fat, I changed three times before I got here.

Adele Anderson: 00:29:45

thing though, so when the mind deep within the mind, we have

Adele Anderson: 00:29:51

this belief system that's tripping us up. That's tripping

Adele Anderson: 00:29:56

us up for our ability, in this case to You know, get the body

Adele Anderson: 00:30:01

that we like. And then we could get into the, into the we're not

Adele Anderson: 00:30:05

a body

Jane Stark: 00:30:08

that is another conversation to go to have a

Adele Anderson: 00:30:10

body just a little quick thing. And you are

Adele Anderson: 00:30:13

telling your body that you don't love your body. What then this

Adele Anderson: 00:30:20

poor body that's supporting you through this life that you have

Adele Anderson: 00:30:27

feels unloved. And what happens then? Right? So love yourself.

Jane Stark: 00:30:34

It even reminds me of that language, that x

Jane Stark: 00:30:38

experiment, I can't remember the specific name of it, but where

Jane Stark: 00:30:41

you either a plant or we did it with an apple in our house, but

Jane Stark: 00:30:44

you cut an apple in half, and you put b one is the good apple

Jane Stark: 00:30:48

and one is the bad apple and the bad apple rots faster. And you

Jane Stark: 00:30:53

end every day like we did it with our kids to show the power

Jane Stark: 00:30:55

of our line of language and belief. And you know, and so

Jane Stark: 00:31:00

yeah, and I mean, try it it and I heard somebody refer to it the

Jane Stark: 00:31:03

other day and saying what they did with plant and the one that

Jane Stark: 00:31:05

was the bad plant where you speak to the bad plant in

Jane Stark: 00:31:08

negative and in negative language. So you've come up to

Jane Stark: 00:31:11

me like, I hate you. You're ugly, you're whatever. It dies.

Jane Stark: 00:31:15

Yeah, way faster. And this is without watering it.

Adele Anderson: 00:31:18

Yeah, they have generational memories. Yeah.

Adele Anderson: 00:31:21

Yeah, well actually shrink away from somebody who's been mean to

Adele Anderson: 00:31:25

them in the past. It's quite fascinating. The whole

Jane Stark: 00:31:28

Yeah, so it just reminds me though to the body

Jane Stark: 00:31:30

part of the you're talking about right? Like if that's the power

Jane Stark: 00:31:33

of our words to things like, like an apple or a plant that

Jane Stark: 00:31:36

are living think about what our body is doing in reaction to

Jane Stark: 00:31:39

that. Language.

Jen Lang: 00:31:41

Yes, cells we haven't even touched on like the

Jen Lang: 00:31:43

frequency of sound and the frequencies of love. So there's

Jen Lang: 00:31:46

like the shape of the words. But I've obviously I work in music

Jen Lang: 00:31:49

and frequencies. So when we're calling in positive frequency,

Jen Lang: 00:31:53

and our cellular structure is a huge portion of it as water I

Jen Lang: 00:31:57

think, Jane, you're talking about the dr. Emoto. syndrome is

Jen Lang: 00:32:02

probably the core right? Yeah. And that frequency, the sound

Jen Lang: 00:32:07

and frequencies of love and expansion and growth and

Jen Lang: 00:32:10

acceptance of belonging all like yes, we've given words to them.

Jen Lang: 00:32:14

But if you are the, the words are carried on the frequency. So

Jen Lang: 00:32:19

all of those need to be in harmony together to make that

Jen Lang: 00:32:23

word, the most potent and the most powerful that it can be for

Jen Lang: 00:32:27

that situation. Oh so much.

Jane Stark: 00:32:30

Wow. Okay, we are out of time. But thank you so

Jane Stark: 00:32:33

much, Adele, this was such a fabulous, deep conversation.

Jane Stark: 00:32:38

Thank you for showing up and sharing your story and your

Jane Stark: 00:32:42

wisdom with our audience. Thank you, where can our audience find

Jane Stark: 00:32:47

you?

Adele Anderson: 00:32:48

My website is Life Coach adele.com Yes, that

Adele Anderson: 00:32:52

life coach Adele, is my email me on Facebook on Instagram. See me

Adele Anderson: 00:33:00

on lots of podcasts. If you Google my name, it should show

Adele Anderson: 00:33:02

him her Dell and

Jen Lang: 00:33:04

all the links are in the show notes people. So if

Jen Lang: 00:33:06

you're listening, just please just go to the show notes.

Jen Lang: 00:33:08

You'll find everything you need to get in contact with Adele

Jen Lang: 00:33:10

there, including the links to the sources we discussed. Thank

Jen Lang: 00:33:15

you, Fidel. This has been so much fun. We'll have you get

Jen Lang: 00:33:18

back again probably sometime later this year to revisit some

Jen Lang: 00:33:21

of these beautiful topics.

Adele Anderson: 00:33:23

I would really enjoy that. Thank you so much

Adele Anderson: 00:33:26

for having me.

Jen Lang: 00:33:27

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Jen Lang: 00:33:35

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